There’s certainly been no shortage of opinions regarding the interaction between Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James and Houston Rockets head coach Ime Udoka. The latest one holds some weight.

James and Udoka got into what appeared to be a tense back-and-forth, as each got their fair share of comments in before the officials gave both technical fouls and Udoka was ejected.

While it isn’t certain what exactly was said, there were finally a few videos closer up to the action and some sites even worked to pull the audio itself. Ultimately, it appeared that things stemmed from Udoka calling out James and the Lakers in a very pointed fashion, as can be seen here.

The belief that those comments were at least close to correct picked up so much steam that not only did ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne discuss them on “NBA Today,” she also brought to light another new twist to the drama. According to Shelburne, Lakers coach Darvin Ham had a quick and pointed response about the topic.

“There ain’t no crying b****** over here, Saginaw said so,” Ham said, according to Shelburne.